This is where I am confused and would like maybe Justin to go over this for everyone. If he won the bets with "manufactured" points then the bets are null and void. If he won bets with ghost accts--those would be cancelled also. Maybe there is some amount of points which were earned/won legitimately. If so, he should be paid those points. All ghosts shut down.

I sympathize, as an entrepreneur, with the growing pains John is going thru with the points/sportsbook/casino etc. but you can't open up an aquarium and not expect sharks. If I knew what this guy...

And then I come in and read the "on the clock" threads and I wonder why Shemp sometimes just goes nuts. You know "idiot" is the same word in any language. there is a reason for that. What ever happened to people reading for like 3 months (not specific to this OP) and then realizing what and how to post. What happened to people using the search function so the same questions are not asked day after day. Did it just get worse after John started giving out points? any correlation there? Finally, I have never had any real problems getting paid by BP and I have never been a member at the slop farm eog. Isn't that the place where kids who bet $5 a game take up half a page giving you the "write up" on the game? Some of those morons used to come over here until the vets ran them off. Ok, rant is done and i feel a little better. Need more fiber maybe to go with my Duran.

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Normally I would not say this event deserves it's own thread, because they have paid me many times in the past year, BUT in light of all the drama and speculation.... figured to let people know and hopefully help those who are truly interested and not those who want to stir things up with innuendo etc.

It was a large 4 figure payout. I have been on here long enough people know I am not a shill. Several other people have said they were paid in the last week. Seems the main problems are check payouts and those types...